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* Bit Trip Saga
 
* Bit Trip Saga
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* Bust-a-move Universe
 
* Centipede Infestation
 
* Centipede Infestation
 
* Crush 3D
 
* Crush 3D
 
* Cubic Ninja
 
* Cubic Ninja
 
* Kingdom Hearts 3D
 
* Kingdom Hearts 3D
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* One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP
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* One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP 2
 
* Professor Layton & The Mask of Miracle  
 
* Professor Layton & The Mask of Miracle  
 
* Rayman Origins
 
* Rayman Origins

Revision as of 13:21, 5 February 2015

This page will list only known incompatible games, the reason (when known) and the method to play them, if possible.

How to add a game to the list

There's currently no template for this list. use copy/paste.

New games will likely not work with old firmware, so instead of listing all future games as not working with FW1.0, limit the incompatibility list to games unplayable on any up to date firmwares.

After a Flashcard firmware release, add to the list only the games not working with the latest release.

In the flashcard columns, list the first/minimum working flashcard's firmware version. In the EmuNAND column, put the game's bundled 3DS Firmware version.

Known reasons why a game is not working

  • Card 2: The game use a "Card 2" cartridge with a single NAND chipset to store both Game and Savedata, instead of using a "Card 1" cartridge with an external EEPROM to store save data.
  • Boot Logo: Since SDK5.0, The (Nintendo) logo displayed at the bottom of the game's booting screen is located outside of the ExeFS in the NCSD. Unable to locate the file, the game can't boot on old flashcart's software version (GW2.0b1 or newer required).
  • KeyY save: This one affects Retail Cartridges only. Games using the new KeyY method for encrypting save data will still use the old key if played through EmuNAND Classic because they are running under 4.1.0-4.5.0. Existing cartridge's save data created when playing on a RealNAND 6.1.0+ will be reset and lost if played on EmuNAND Classic. The problem is present the other way too, playing on EmuNAND first will reset the save data if you play the game on RealNAND later. If you start on EmuNAND, and loose the ability to launch EmuNAND (or later the flashcart teams find a way to use the new KeyY while in EmuNAND), you will loose your progress.
  • KeyY data: Games and applications using the new KeyY method to encrypt their data can't be decrypted. (Example: Youtube updated channel)

Problematic games

Rel.# Release Name Reason Gateway 3DS R4i Gold 3DS Deluxe /
3DS Link
MT-Card Min. System version for EmuNAND Classic Notes
0270 Animal.Crossing.New.Leaf.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST Card 2 2.0 Not Working 1.2a 4.5.0 Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0353 Tobidase_Doubutsu_no_Mori_JPN_3DS-Kirin Card 2 2.0 Not Working 1.2a 4.3.0 Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0409 Monster_Hunter_4_JPN_3DS-Kirin Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0450 Pokemon.X.3DS-CONTRAST Card 2
KeyY save
2.0 Not Working 1.2a 6.1.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility.
•Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0451 Pokemon.Y.3DS-CONTRAST Card 2
KeyY save
2.0 Not Working 1.2a 6.1.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility.
•Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0468 Batman.Arkham.Origins.Blackgate.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0469 Hometown_Story_3DS-VENOM Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0478 Ben_10_Omniverse_2_3DS-VENOM Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0479 Monster_High_13_Wishes_3DS-VENOM Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0488 The.Legend.of.Zelda.A.Link.Between.Worlds.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST Boot Logo
KeyY save
2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
0490 Adventure_Time_Explore_the_Dungeon_Because_I_DONT_KNOW_3DS-VENOM Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0492 Mario_Party_Island_Tour_3DS-VENOM Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 (KeyY save issue?)
0493 Animal_Crossing_New_Leaf_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT Card 2 2.0 Not Working 1.2a 4.5.0 Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0494 The_Legend_of_Zelda_A_Link_Between_Worlds_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT Boot Logo
KeyY save
2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
0497 Bravely.Default.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST KeyY save 1.2 2.0 1.1 6.2.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
•GW1.x and GW2.x savegames are incompatible.
0509 One.Piece.Romance.Dawn.EUR.3DS-BigBlueBox Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0539 Batman_Arkham_Origins_Blackgate_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0550 Shingeki_no_Kyoujin_-_Jinrui_Saigo_no_Tsubasa_JPN_3DS-Kirin Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 (KeyY save issue?)
0578 Adventure.Time.Explore.the.Dungeon.Because.I.DONT.KNOW.EUR.3DS-BigBlueBox Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0597 Tomodachi.Collection.Shin.Seikatsu.JPN.3DS-BigBlueBox Card 2 2.0 Not Working 1.2a 4.5.0 Trimmed ROM doesn't work.
0601 Monster_High_13_Wishes_EUR_MULTi10_3DS-ABSTRAKT Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 5.1.0
0602 Mario_Party_Island_Tour_EUR_MULTi8_3DS-ABSTRAKT Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 (KeyY save issue?)
0633 Bravely.Default.USA.3DS-BigBlueBox KeyY save 1.2 2.0 1.1 6.2.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
•GW1.x and GW2.x savegames are incompatible.
0654 One.Piece.Romance.Dawn.USA.3DS-BigBlueBox Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 6.2.0 (KeyY save issue?)
0673 Yoshis.New.Island.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST Boot Logo 2.0b1 3.0 1.1 7.1.0 (KeyY save issue?)
0699 Professor_Layton_vs_Phoenix_Wright_Ace_Attorney_3DS-VENOM KeyY save 1.2 2.0 1.1 7.1.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
•GW1.x and GW2.x savegames are incompatible.
0866 Disney_Magical_World_3DS-VENOM KeyY save 1.2 2.0 1.1 7.1.0 •NAND/EmuNAND Save incompatibility
•GW1.x and GW2.x savegames are incompatible.

Trimming compatibility

Trimming means deleting the unused data in a ROM.

  • Trim: Consists in removing the unused part located after the game's data in the ROM dump. This can be reversed to get the clean ROM back.
  • Super trim: Consists in removing the unused part located after the game's data in the ROM dump, and also deleting the update partition. This step can't be canceled as it's altering the game's data.

You will find here a list of games affected by the trim or super trim.

If a game is not listed, please add it in alphabetical order.

If a game has different compatibility between region, specify the region.

Trim incompatibility

  • All Card2 type games (Pokemon X/Y, Animal crossing, etc.)
  • Disney Frozen: Olaf's Quest
  • Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance

Super trim incompatibility

  • All Card2 type games
  • Bit Trip Saga
  • Bust-a-move Universe
  • Centipede Infestation
  • Crush 3D
  • Cubic Ninja
  • Kingdom Hearts 3D
  • One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP
  • One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP 2
  • Professor Layton & The Mask of Miracle
  • Rayman Origins
  • Resident Evil Revelations
  • Shinobi
  • Sonic Generations
  • StarFox 64 3D