Talk:3 in 1 Expansion Pack for EZ-Flash V
I'm getting one of these devices and I am confused as hell on how to use it. So whatever success that I may have will end up in this subject or separate guide on how to get things done written in a concise fashion. I am limited to only an M3 Simply and the EZV Expansion. I would first like to note that there are too many damn names for this thing, and I have no idea what to call it. How about EZVXP? Sorry for the Microsoft-Think, but scientists are lazy.
I do believe that the most commonly accepted term is just "3in1" or similar. No point in inventing new acronyms. --18.104.22.168 13:39, 1 September 2007 (CEST)
Slim chance any change was going to happen. It was more of a bad joke. Honestly!
--ThaiGrocer 18:34, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
So I see an anonymous person got a bucket of elbow grease and did a fine job of content addition. I am going to move the information and edit the grammar to be "consistent" with the other articles on EZ-flash. Consistency is the key work here, folks! Well, I am starting now since I just got my 3 in 1 in the mail. I must say that I enjoy this product enough to continue these edits. Fun!
I added more pictures and I got permission from GBAtemp to use the pictures from the review. I seem to be having difficulty finding a picture of the "Phat" Version of the Expansion Pack (GBA Cart Size). If anybody can take a picture that is not from websites like realhotstuff or any other shop, then it would just be peachy.
THANKS for adding the picture Iq_132! The 3 in 1 "phat" is perfect!
--ThaiGrocer 18:31, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
I merged the external Initial Setup and FAQ articles into this one, as there's no reason for them to be separate (at least at this stage).--Dirtie 17:07, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
Missing Info / More to Do
There are some personal observations on things to do, add, or change. Please add any additional critiques, suggestions.
- Expand Compatibility Section, like adding info on official EZ-V software compatibility with 3 in 1 Expansion Pack for EZ-Flash V. It should be an additional subsection like Third-Party Solutions Subsection to Compatibility
- Review Section should contain additional criticisms of the product. From the top of my head: Hardware issues (like battery problems, if applicable/confirmed), Software Issues (Official or Homebrew)
- Improvement on clarity overall, as our target audience include New Users up to Experts on the subject. For example, the Initial Setup Section, in my opinion, can be initially confusing for me. If I can understand the instructions right away, anyone can!
- Anything contributors can think of.
--ThaiGrocer 12:24, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
- Increasing automation, like cycloDS supporting the 3 in 1 with autopatching
- Standalone Browser Patch
- Standalone Rumble Patch
- Dev Resources on RAM
- GBA-DS Link
Couldn't have noticed all of this missing information. Thanks FAST6191!!
--ThaiGrocer 07:52, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
- RTC Compatibility
- More emphasis on rumble compatibility (since some users feedback that they didn't notice the statement in the Compatibility Section)
--ThaiGrocer 22:50, 28 August 2007 (CDT)
- Games without any specialized hardware required that still don't work. An example would be 1386_Famicom_Mini_Vol_5_Zelda_no_Densetsu_JPN_GBA-RS (eeprom save)
- Available cracks to solve the issue (directly above this statement)
Thanks anonymous. Register and edit the wiki if you can... If you have the balls!
--ThaiGrocer 22:53, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
More missing info
Two things which could use a mention are the lack of an RTC chip (thus requiring a clock patch) as well as any other special hw features needing patches (light sensor, tilt, etc). The other item which is less obvious is if the rumble feature works in the gba games which support it, or if the rumble only works in DS games. I would add the information but I myself am not sure of the answer. I have a feeling it's no though :( --22.214.171.124 08:18, 28 August 2007 (CEST)
I definitely think we should emphasize on compatibility that doesn't exist, but is typically expected (ultimately ending in great disappointment). It would help users in their purchase decision. I recently finished Minish Cap. It was a linear blast!
--ThaiGrocer 20:50, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
As the compatibility seems to be pretty good, no point in a compatibility list. However, a list of games which do not function properly could be useful. For example, I just tried 1386_Famicom_Mini_Vol_5_Zelda_no_Densetsu_JPN_GBA-RS (eeprom save), which will not save (gives an error message after naming your character). It gives the same error unpatched, patched with gbata, and patched with ezclient4. The famicom mini games are notoriously picky... -edit- It appears that the Famicom Mini/NES Classic games have unsupported protection, nothing will run them w/o cracks. A lot easier to state that than list them all huh? Any other games require cracking? --126.96.36.199 13:38, 29 August 2007 (CEST)
You can add in a statement regarding incompatibility if you like since it seems like you have more detail on that area. Please don't be offended if I move your content around and about on the article. I tested out the game and it did not work as you have claimed. Do you know of any specific cracks that can fix this issue? What other games are notoriously vicious towards the 3 in 1?
--ThaiGrocer 20:44, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
There are a limited few cracks (I counted about 3 on nofrills). However after a bit of forum hunting on gbatemp and ds-scene (followed by a google) I located a nearly complete pack of pre-patched roms released by WRG. It seems that patches (or a patcher) have not been released except for the few on nofrills. If I get some time in the next week I could make some diffs, but there are still 3 or so I haven't found cracks/cracked copies of. AFAIK it's not just 3in1 with the famicom mini problem, it's all carts and emus. Strange how Nintendo put the best protection on their least desirable (to the mainstream at least) releases. --188.8.131.52 09:28, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
New 3 in 1 chipset version
Guys, I bought a 3 in 1 and I can't make it work with my R4DS. Browsing through the net, i found this  (text in Japanese). Basically it says that it looks like there is a new chipset in the new batches of the 3 in 1 and his utility won't be usable until he develops a new version. Anybody else now something about this? It should be mentioned on the article.
Updates to article in regards to new chipset and new loaders
Hey! Hey! Hey! I updated the article quite a bit with the new developments that have floated up recently: the new chipset, GBA ExpLoader by rudolph, and the automatic patching method for Initial Setup. Thanks to Rudolph's excellent work, third-party compatibility with GBA ROMs has succeeded EZ's official compatibility (as of GBA ExpLoader 0.5). So Famicom Mini EEPROM_124 GBA ROMs work like a charm. Therefore the issue mentioned previously in this discussion has been resolved! --ThaiGrocer 21:45, 09 March 2008 (CDT)